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RE: Are fat transfer results permanent?

Posted 19 Mar 2010

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jewel123 25 Jan 2009
These Doctors should not say fat transfer lasts. This is not true.There is no proof that it is lasting in scientific studies. Only "proof" is in statements and subjective opinions by a few Doctors that make their money from doing it.
secrets 7 Mar 2009
well,i had fat grafting in my hands ,and for around 2 months it looked great,but after 3 months it was totally gone. it was an absolute waste of money ,and not worth all the excruciating pain. surely there must be a permanent filler which would be more promising.?
Misty H. (RealFriend) 29 Jan 2011
I have heard that fat transfer does not work well in areas with alot of movement like lips and hands. The movement doesn't allow the fat to revasculate to survive. The transplanted fat is delicate and if it can't revasculate it can't survive.

I am not a doctor and I don't work in a doctor's office, I just had a fat transfer in 2009 to my face and I love the results.
michhy 7 Apr 2009
Oh I am proof that fat lasts, I have had it since 1993. I have even had some cut out,because there was to much put in! I think technique is crucial.
Gaby Brielle 23 Jul 2009
michhy, who did you go to? And where did you have the fat injected? I am seriously considering it! Anyone else have success?
Misty H. (RealFriend) 29 Jan 2011
I had a fat transfer to my face along with a face lift back in November 2009. Not all of the fat survives, but what has is still there.

I wanted to add some fat to my forehead and temple areas as well a little more to my cheeks to soften lines so I had a second stage fat transfer back in November 2010 and so far the results are great.

When done by the right surgeon in a right area, fat is a wondeful thing.
michhy 25 Jul 2009
I think the reason it lasted on me was I was in my 20's and I think there are more stem cells present at that age. Anyway the doctor who did it has a local unknown and has since retired.I might also add he only charged me 400.00 back in 1993 and it was done under local.
secrets 19 Mar 2010
In my case,it did,nt last more than 3 months.
jewel123 20 Mar 2010
fat grafts are really swollen lumps.
jewel123 13 Feb 2011
you are all such smarty pants, talking about stem cells and live fat cells. Just feel your skin and you will feel the lumps under there. That is not fat! Fat is soft. The lumps are hard. The lumps are used by these doctors to cause swelling that gives your face a puffy look for most of the day and it goes down in the evening. That does not mean that you have actual live fat cells. That means you have lumps that cause swelling. And it makes your face look older, not younger. Doctors can tell you whatever they think you want to hear. That does not mean you have to believe them!
jewel123 13 Feb 2011
Micchy, The fact that you had the fat "cut" out is proof that you had lumps, not fat, that lasted.

Get your fact straight next time.
michhy 13 Feb 2011
Do your research Jewell! why dont you look at some medical jounals that show pictures of fat graft cut out and you will see that they are small rubbery lumps of FAT and if not placed to deeply in the muscle can be felt!!
jewel123 14 Feb 2011
Here's my research michhy!:

In 2007 doctors from the UCLA Division of Plastic and Reconstructive Surgery wrote an article:

Conclusions: Although there is an increased trend in replacement of soft-tissue volume with autologous fat transfer, THE LITERATURE FAILS TO PROVIDE DEFINITIVE EVIDENCE OF FAT SURVIVAL. - Autologous Fat Transfer for Facial Recontouring: Is There Science behind the Art? Matthew R. Kaufman, M.D.Timothy A. Miller, M.D.Catherine Huang, M.D.Jason Roostaien, B.S.Kristy L. Wasson, B.A.Rebekah K. Ashley, B.S.James P. Bradley, M.D. (Plast. Reconstr. Surg.119: 2287, 2007.)

Quantitative evidence of clinical fat survivability and predict-
ability of volume restoration DOES NOT EXIST- (Plast. Reconstr. Surg.
119: 2287, 2007.)

take that michhy! And who consents to have lumps under their skin??? Doctors who do not inform patients preoperatively that lumps are a consequence of fat grafting are commiting malpractice for lack of informed consent!
jewel123 14 Feb 2011
And the lumps can be felt, even when placed under deep under muscle. facial skin is very thin michhy!
michhy 14 Feb 2011
Believe what you want,the majority consesus is fat grafts when done right last.If you have lumps just gain 15-30 pounds and watch them grow-then you will know what they are made of.
jewel123 14 Feb 2011
UCLA division of plastic surgery is not the majority consensus you are saying??????????????????????
First of all, everyone's face frows with weight gain. Lumps may be made of tissue and tissue grows. The fact that tissue grows has nothing to do with it being fat tissue.... lumps could be fat tissue, scar tissue, bone tissue, or plastic balls for all we know,.... but lumps are lumps and can always be felt under the thin facial skin and are nothing similar to real fat tissue. Older people may not notice them because they lose feeling and sight with age.
jewel123 14 Feb 2011
Everyone's face grows with weight gain, not just people who had fat injections.

If there is a lawyer out there, please start suing these doctors who do fat injections for malpractice!!!! Plastic surgeons are not informing patients preoperatively that lumps are a consequence of the fat injections. They are misleading patients to believe that there is maybe a possibility of a temporary pimple-like lump or a risk of lumps or no risk at all. By law they are required to inform patients preoperatively that the lumps are the actual product being sold and are a consequence (not a risk) of the procedure. The lumps are being used as a structural material to create volume and can be felt under the facial skin.
jewel123 14 Feb 2011
The consequence of fat injections are multiple lumps under your skin. They are just 3mm in diameter but they cause daily swelling and a puffy look that you don't want. And they can be both seen and felt!
michhy 14 Feb 2011
I happen to know for a fact that if you call UCLA and speak to the chief of Plastic surgery he will tell you fat grafts when done right last.
jewel123 15 Feb 2011
then why the heck did he and his division write that article???????
and let me correct you: they last as lumps. Who wants hard lumps under their skin? I have no doubt that all the little 3mm hard lumps last. I do doubt that the hard lumps are fat though. They are calcification or scar tissue and I know this because they are hard, not soft like fat.
jewel123 15 Feb 2011
And michhy, the article is not commenting on if the fat graft lasts, it is simply stating that
there is no proof that the fat cells live and that you can't predict the outcome.

here is the article again, maybe you read it wrong michhy:

In 2007 doctors from the UCLA Division of Plastic and Reconstructive Surgery wrote an article:

Conclusions: Although there is an increased trend in replacement of soft-tissue volume with autologous fat transfer, THE LITERATURE FAILS TO PROVIDE DEFINITIVE EVIDENCE OF FAT SURVIVAL. - Autologous Fat Transfer for Facial Recontouring: Is There Science behind the Art? Matthew R. Kaufman, M.D.Timothy A. Miller, M.D.Catherine Huang, M.D.Jason Roostaien, B.S.Kristy L. Wasson, B.A.Rebekah K. Ashley, B.S.James P. Bradley, M.D. (Plast. Reconstr. Surg.119: 2287, 2007.)

Quantitative evidence of clinical fat survivability and predict-
ability of volume restoration DOES NOT EXIST- (Plast. Reconstr. Surg.
119: 2287, 2007.)
michhy 15 Feb 2011
Believe me they have proof since that was written.I know first hand. Like I said gain weight and you will see that area grow in a abnormal way related to the rest of your face.Just try it and see.Or get an MRI.
jewel123 16 Feb 2011
What proof? could you cite some sources that are as credible as the UCLA division of plastic surgery and are not just written by one or two odd balls?
MissTreated 4 Jun 2011
If the fat is disturbed then it will get lumpy and break apart i know tjis because after my -***** of a dr pushed onto my lower eyelids with heavy pressure he instantly damaged the fat graft with his stupid fingers,
Need Information 25 Oct 2011
I was lied to by the staff at Dr. Joseph Cruise in Cali, but it turns out that it is just a waste of money .

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