Facial exercises are for crazy people?

  • 6 years ago

A facial plastic surgeon told me that doing facial exercises was a waste of time & for "crazy people".  according to him theres no benefit that comes from exercising facial muscles. You need a facelift or botox to get results. Does anyone disagree...that face exercises do work?

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Keep in mind that the muscles have memory. It has been scientific Demonstrated (If anyone wants me to explain, I can try with my regular spanish), and this memory lasts for a loooong time, maybe forever, wich no. Doing it and stoping it is not like you did nothing.
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It doesn't mean that the volume lasts forever, but the memory of the muscle may do.
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Hi, I didn't get any good effects from using Revitonica either. Their customer service is very poor and when you ask them why their programme doesn't work they blame you for not following exercise guidelines exactly. FlexEffect in many cases makes wrinkles even worse.
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I tried FlexEffect and Revitonica (another but similar programme) and was very very disappointed. I had NO EFFECT yet paid so much money. When I emailed Flexeffect people they did not reply (what a good customer service:( The only thing that really worked for me was facial massage using vacuum cupping. Micro needling gave a good effect too. Don't buy these programmes promising amazing results and charging lots for nothing.
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I am trying to find someone who actually can help train me with their modality, so that I am not accidentally strengthening the wrong muscles. I am 57, have a jowl problem and loose neck, and have been doing FlexEffect and other jaw exercises. I almost feel as if the problem is getting worse; maybe some muscles are being overbuilt-- it is hard to tell what's going on. I tried to contact FlexEffect via their website and phone-- and got no response. It would be helpful to work one-one-one with someone. Would someone please comment on the effectiveness for these issues relating to CFF (I just found that they offer Skype lessons- great). Would someone comment on CFF versus Facial Magic-- if there is anyone who has tried both. It is very disheartening to be diligently training, and not get the results!
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Arriale, hi hope you dont mind me being a male advocate for facial training thats replying to your post here...... Yo most definitely can over train facial muscles as was proven by a certain body builder from the seventies who was famous for developing cheek muscles to excess.......Yo must fin a balance between improving and lifting as apposed to strengthening and over developing. We see it all the time when people end up looking completely different to what they wanted from over doing it, and overdoing the intensity.The intensity of training is key to what the results will be, you should never do it to a point of feeling too much pain, and or too much of a dull ache.Also if you are using the flex gadget dont hammer it too m uch as you are effectively doing weighted exercise, and if you have a growth burst you will quickly over develop that area.....resulting in bulking the muscle instead of lifting and gently strentghening the area.......
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HI- thanks for your note; which program do you suggest? I think the key is having sessions, periodically, with someone who can assess your progress and make modifications in your program-- someone who really knows what to look for and can assess what needs to be changed in the program.
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you don't mean ah-nold do you? I mean the "certain body builder?" I don't think I can believe that without proof of how he looked before. I think those are that way naturally. I mean if that's who you are talking about. Really with stuff like this it's best if someone has studies done on twins -- are there any? Although this seems a far better option than the plastic surgeon ones, it's just that people don't like to work!
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No Nadia, Tom Platz, not sure ive spelt it correctly but take a look for your self, he developed his jowl and cheek muscles to extreme.At the end of the day he was marketing himself as he never won the olympia title and would never have since his thighs were so over developed that he was classed as out of proportion.But he did a very good job of putting himself on the financial map through making his look a gimmick. Unfortunately you are right people generally dont like to work at facial training, and look for what they genuinely think is the easy way. Arriale, twenty years ago i simply went for the Eva Fraser facial workouts,.....i found them to be gentle enough to use without using gadgets that i have not found to be as good as gentle finger based holding exercises.You hit the nail on the head when you said doing the training in sessions.........It has yet to be proven either way that training the face every day all over will be any quicker than training the face in twice a week sessions, and then if you have no jowls then it would be a wise move to be zonal in your approach, targeting the areas that you do want to change, and being sparing on those that look to still be tones up. One of the areas of concern is over training no matter what you train at, so do we assume that its just the same for the face......just my view here but intensity of training along with frequency will determine how fast you effect the area.And without bringing a barrage of naysayers down on me here, Diet has to be considered as an aid in the recovery process. If yo train to excess every day doing an all over face training plan, and pay no attention to trying to repair faster using supplements let alone the correct muscle repairing foods, then i am sure that the results will stagnate and you will be training on a strained muscle for ever and a day.If you do the routines with 70% of your maximum intensity each time for the area you are looking at, you will notice a definite strength improvement via the length of time you can actually keep the hold for before you start to feel the dull ache.This is as good a gauge as ive found to be accurate when looking at if the area is improving in the strength area.If it improves in strength then you should see some kind of change over time in that area.If you did not, but the muscle had strengthened with the time you can hold the exercise for it will go against then that would be going against what happens when muscles strengthen up in the books that have been written over many decades.There will be a lift of some degree, so keep at it. The time results will take is a completely different variant for every person, even if you are doing the same workout, the same intensity and the same frequency per week......you are unique so just go with what you see happening as you really will be either ecstatic or very disappointed at the time it take to effect a change. The shocking theory.....this is the body reaction to change when doing any activity.When you start training your face for the first time you will feel a difference, and be excited at how it makes you feel if you get it right of course.But do the same routines over and over and you will stall in most every form of diet/exercise plan thats ever been created, and this has been proven over time to happen to nearly every body who has participated in exercise, and i see no reason to think that the face will be different. So with this in mind, vary the routines at least once every two weeks i would suggest or every 6-8 times you do a particular area of the face.The muscles will be shocked that you have changed it up through either the time span , or intensity, or frequency or the routine.This works and can only aid your efforts in this field. As a reference i also looked at Alison Heath on you tube, her short videos were very helpful.Eva faser was on this morning in 2010, and as far as i can remember she is over 80 now, and unless she is conning us all and getting some kind of surgery, she looked unbelievable.
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Hi Arriale, I am sorry to hear your story. From my experience, using simple yoga exercises for back and neck have rally good effect on the way your neck looks. Of course, if you do them every day for at least 5-10 minutes. This is because if we have problems with our posture, gravity works against us and neck muscles do not function properly which leads to loose neck. So, the first thing would be to 'fix' your posture. With that use gentle cupping massage for your neck and you will see great results. You just need to purchase cups and you will be amazed how facial cupping may change the way you look. This worked for me and I got my cupping set for face from these guys: http://massagecupping.com/ I will be happy to guide you through the process of using cups if needed. Just let me know how you go.
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Hi Arriale. Although I find much of FlexEffect useful, I didn't like the way their platysma exercise made my neck cords show. Also, I do think one can easily over-develop the masseter muscles, which end up looking pretty jowly. I'm enjoying Ageless if You Dare, which emphasizes the more 'up and outward' exercises for the face. For my neck, I stopped the FlexEffect ones many months ago for above reason, and now to CFF's 'gulping fish' (free online). While not perfect, I think it's made improvements and definitely doesn't do the same cord-development that the FlexEffect platysma exercises seemed to do to me.
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I tried many excersises from different programmes. I didnot use one programme only .And Im finding after a year of doing excersisises what is the best for me. All people I meet tell me that I look great , fresh, etc. Means my job is making results and also I see it myself. But I tried a lot from youtube as well. The biggest results I have on eyelids , I even wanted to make surgery for them, and now I postpone it . Im 54 years old, and I looked before really bad. I also advise muscle massage like Thalgo technics( I used some from Japanese lady ) which is the best introduction to start excercises. Dont give up. It works! I know ladies doing excersises and looking great.
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Hi guys just wanted to add something here. We really need to be careful with exercises. The thing is that many face muscles are in hyper tonus and many are just opposite- in hypo tonus. So some need relaxation while some need exercise. The trouble is that it is very hard to understand what muscles need what. If you exercise all muscles on your face you are risking to overdo and thus exaggerate wrinkles on your face. This is what happens with many people when they end up with having negative results as a result of facial exercises. From my experience only facial massage (I am talking about deep tissue facial massage not a surface one) the only thing that can relax muscles where needed yet give good work out for those muscles that require extra strengthening. Finding out what muscles to exercise may be a daunting task and you can really go wrong with it.
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Again well said to julie 50 here, people do generally over train muscles in the gym and facially.Without ever researching what does what and how to do the routines right, and more importantly how often to do the routines....... I am still convinced that training the face every day in the same areas is overkill, my results sort of bare that out for myself.Recovery and nutrition are a must, its pointless pulling and pushing the muscles to breaking point if then you dont have enough time for them to recover and build the mass in the areas that you need it....... Training any muscle daily is a no no on a general theme, and im not convinced as of yet that training facial muscles will recover any faster than any where else.....
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I do fear that when people have a great deal of money, as far as there faces are concerned they do seem to lack any common sense and head straight for the cosmetic surgeon.Now if they were all so great at advising people of what they really do need doing, instead of making people self conscious of having a single laughter line, or a line when they frown,maybe the industry would be taken more seriously.People in the richer areas of the world are obsessed with having no lines facially....why is that?...is it more attractive to be as smooth as a sheet of ice at 65?......its nonsense i believe,.....poor michael jackson...what a mess he ended up looking on the back of surgeons still willing to shave away some of his nose/chin/cheeks, and god know what else.....The odd line does not detract from your beauty.having no expression lines does......all people need to do b4 starting facial training is decide what it is they actually want from the plan...if you have no idea what you want at the end then you will be disappointed with the results simply bcos you probly wont be on the right plan to start with...you will end up pulling/pushing.stretching every thing in sight and alter your looks for maybe not the better.........Take your time, learn how each exercise is supposed to work, and make sure you get the intensity correct........do not over train, its one of the reasons people fail miserably even doing facial training...........tortoise and the hare etc.......
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Hi Hopefully the right link was after getting in touch with Scarborough from More Money Review
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Hi, not sure if the first post worked as wasn't logged in, I'm after contacting Scarborough from MMR. many thanks Mel
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Hi peter, its john from the mmr site, how can i help you...jknight02464@gmail.com....
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If you've (a) Been scared that FlexEffect is too aggressive, (b) Or were worried about Nonie having said that people can ruin their faces, Please visit the flexeffect forum where they've actually laid out a whole thing about the holes and mistakes in Nonie's stories. I'm posting this because I think it's important that people not be scared off of facial exercises in general...which is what I fear Nonie's posting inadvertently did...
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http://flexeffect.proboards.com/board/35/carolyns-facial-fitness-nonie-aka
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My take on this is that Nonie was young and over-training was very easy for her to do by mistake. She totally believes in facial exercises though (see her comments on Essentialdayspa), just not Flexeffect. I've found Flexeffect excellent, but have doubts that their platysma approach is right.
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I believe that face exercises are helpful. They increase bloodflow; help with overall flexibly; the whole body is interconnected, so the exercises help the whole system just like exercising the rest of the body. Massage, meditation, deep breathing, healthy diet... It all helps and is a lot better for a body than plastic surgery.
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I've been doing neck exercises since I was 16 - I'm now 64 - and my neck doesn't sag. Period. Many people ask why I have no turkey/sagging neck, and I'm happy to tell them. I always did my neck exercises after spraying my neck with water, or in the shower. An old friend who started doing them at 16 also & is the same age as me wound up with a turkey neck because she did the exercises any time of day without first moistening her neck. I've also done classic European resistance face exercises since I was about 48 (after doing less intense ones from the age of 38) and I've been told by a number of people that I look about 52. It isn't unusual for someone to start stammering and staring at me when they learn my age. One woman told me her husband thought I was 42! Her guess was closer to my real age, but still several years younger than I am. The plastic surgeon mentioned above is probably more concerned with his bottom line than the truth about face exercises.
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Hi KH7, May I know why did you switch to less intensive Classic European exercises? May I know what these Classic European exercises entail ( any sample exercises?)...I am interested. Thanks!
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I'd also love to know what you mean by "classic European resistance exercises"?
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