Facial exercises are for crazy people?

  • 6 years ago

A facial plastic surgeon told me that doing facial exercises was a waste of time & for "crazy people".  according to him theres no benefit that comes from exercising facial muscles. You need a facelift or botox to get results. Does anyone disagree...that face exercises do work?

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I am trying to find someone who actually can help train me with their modality, so that I am not accidentally strengthening the wrong muscles. I am 57, have a jowl problem and loose neck, and have been doing FlexEffect and other jaw exercises. I almost feel as if the problem is getting worse; maybe some muscles are being overbuilt-- it is hard to tell what's going on. I tried to contact FlexEffect via their website and phone-- and got no response. It would be helpful to work one-one-one with someone. Would someone please comment on the effectiveness for these issues relating to CFF (I just found that they offer Skype lessons- great). Would someone comment on CFF versus Facial Magic-- if there is anyone who has tried both. It is very disheartening to be diligently training, and not get the results!
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I do fear that when people have a great deal of money, as far as there faces are concerned they do seem to lack any common sense and head straight for the cosmetic surgeon.Now if they were all so great at advising people of what they really do need doing, instead of making people self conscious of having a single laughter line, or a line when they frown,maybe the industry would be taken more seriously.People in the richer areas of the world are obsessed with having no lines facially....why is that?...is it more attractive to be as smooth as a sheet of ice at 65?......its nonsense i believe,.....poor michael jackson...what a mess he ended up looking on the back of surgeons still willing to shave away some of his nose/chin/cheeks, and god know what else.....The odd line does not detract from your beauty.having no expression lines does......all people need to do b4 starting facial training is decide what it is they actually want from the plan...if you have no idea what you want at the end then you will be disappointed with the results simply bcos you probly wont be on the right plan to start with...you will end up pulling/pushing.stretching every thing in sight and alter your looks for maybe not the better.........Take your time, learn how each exercise is supposed to work, and make sure you get the intensity correct........do not over train, its one of the reasons people fail miserably even doing facial training...........tortoise and the hare etc.......
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If you've (a) Been scared that FlexEffect is too aggressive, (b) Or were worried about Nonie having said that people can ruin their faces, Please visit the flexeffect forum where they've actually laid out a whole thing about the holes and mistakes in Nonie's stories. I'm posting this because I think it's important that people not be scared off of facial exercises in general...which is what I fear Nonie's posting inadvertently did...
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http://flexeffect.proboards.com/board/35/carolyns-facial-fitness-nonie-aka
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I believe that face exercises are helpful. They increase bloodflow; help with overall flexibly; the whole body is interconnected, so the exercises help the whole system just like exercising the rest of the body. Massage, meditation, deep breathing, healthy diet... It all helps and is a lot better for a body than plastic surgery.
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I've been doing neck exercises since I was 16 - I'm now 64 - and my neck doesn't sag. Period. Many people ask why I have no turkey/sagging neck, and I'm happy to tell them. I always did my neck exercises after spraying my neck with water, or in the shower. An old friend who started doing them at 16 also & is the same age as me wound up with a turkey neck because she did the exercises any time of day without first moistening her neck. I've also done classic European resistance face exercises since I was about 48 (after doing less intense ones from the age of 38) and I've been told by a number of people that I look about 52. It isn't unusual for someone to start stammering and staring at me when they learn my age. One woman told me her husband thought I was 42! Her guess was closer to my real age, but still several years younger than I am. The plastic surgeon mentioned above is probably more concerned with his bottom line than the truth about face exercises.
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Hi KH7, May I know why did you switch to less intensive Classic European exercises? May I know what these Classic European exercises entail ( any sample exercises?)...I am interested. Thanks!
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I'd also love to know what you mean by "classic European resistance exercises"?
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I switched to more intensive exercises. They're done by wearing white cotton gloves & holding the face - in the CORRECT way ( very important) - then pulling the muscles against them. The resistance creates a very toned muscle. My aunt looked 20 years younger when she did them!
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You should google them. Countless European women do them, & they've been around for many decades. One of my aunts told me about them in the mid 1960's.
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Which ones - whats the name of them? There are many exercise systems that involve gloves, Facial Magic, Eva Fraser etc to name but a few of the popular ones. So the "intense" label is intriguing.
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It was Facial Magic.
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Thought so, i'm not sure I would label them as classic, but its a tag line I suppose they use in marketing that no one else is. I have used Facial Magic, but also used Eva Fraser and some of the exercises are very similar. I know Cynthia says she learned them in Paris, but I've never been able to learn where from and Paris is only a short train ride from me so I'd love to go and have 1-1 with someone.
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I looked at Deb Crowley's photos on her website. They are very impressive. Re-thinking facial exercise.
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I like her stuff, I don't use her program solely but a lot of her exercises do work well for my face in conjunction with others and I think as time passes you get to know your own face just like your body so know when more is needed, and she hasn't got some exercises like say Nose Shortener from Facercise - so I like to keep that in my workout too for example.
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Please explain what rules were broken when I posted about Deb Crowley's photos on the Flexeffect website? I see below there are posts with references to other facial exercise programs (CFF) and directions to their sites. Does this have to do with which program is allowed to be discussed on this forum and which is not?
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Drs. Want to down facial exercises because they know they work and they don't want to lose business. I've been doing carolyns facial fitness for 6 months and I love it. My face fell because of Botox. I had saggy jowls and I'm only 35. After 4 months doing CFF my jowls lifted! Now I'm concentrating more on my eye area. Facial exercises really work, I'm living proof!
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This question was posted six years ago... oh, what the hell! You're plastic surgeon is a know-it-all douchebag. Doctors are educated but they aren't gods of knowledge. Remember they are only human who have only so much time with their patients and a living to make. Facial exercises do work wonderfully. The notion only seems crazy because it hasn't been widely accepted as a valid health practise yet. There is a website online that shows the history of facial exercises and how it has been used for more than a few centuries by ranges of people who gained fantastic skin. It's not a miracle, it is just exercise and creating good health. I recommend to anyone who wants to try it that people buy Carolyn's Facial Fitness. I bought her program seven months ago and her workout is perfect i.e. the end result is a natural, elegant, pretty look to the face without any areas that look funny and overbuilt. AND it is very cheap to buy. I go out of my way to recommend her because, as a customer, it is daunting to pick a program. I have had only good skin results from her (and let me tell you, my skin prior was in a messy state). Facial exercises DO work because, the logic is, exercise is what builds a muscle and muscle is what tones and tightens the skin. Facial exercises do not create wrinkles because, particularly with the case in Carolyn's Facial Fitness, you are not stretching the skin which might be a preconceived scary idea. It does not stretch the skin thus creating wrinkles because the person is supposed to keep their face firm and taut with their facial muscles and use their finger to massage the skin in the opposite direction. For great info go to this website: carolynsfacialfitness.com
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Luise, I have made excersises of Caroline from book , no video , and for a few month I couldnt decrease sagging jowl and neck skin, do you use book or video, what are your experience regarding sagging skin
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Hello Firma8. I have been using the DVD (video) for seven months and have had a great experience. I would recommend that you buy the actual full DVD from her website... it is very cheap! The exercises you are using from her book are actually BONUS exercises which you are supposed to use as add-ons to the FULL foundational program which, once you learn, is only a fifteen minute routine. It will help you a lot with your sagging jowl and neck skin but, like anything, it takes time and committment to see results. Prior to this program my skin was very, very thin and saggy because I never showed any facial expression (meaning I never used the muscles in my face) and caused my skin to droop, sag and wrinkle; but by strengthening the muscles in my face through Carolyn's Facial Fitness my skin is now plump and toned. The facial skin is directly attached to the muscles in the face (which is how our faces can show expression) so when the facial muscles are strengthened they lift and cause the attaced facial skin to lift and smooth out with it. I hope that helped!
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Louise20, may I ask how old you are? And are you doing any of the bonus exercises?
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Sure thing! I'm fairly young - I just turned twenty so my skin has responded exceedingly well to the routine like young skin does. Although I have to add that I had put my skin through hell for the past two years prior so my skin was in a scary condition before I started the routine - it wasn't healthy and resilient like most people my age. It was thin and translucent, wrinkled, scaly, VERY delicate and the muscles in my face had atrophied from lack of showing expression. I honestly didn't believe that it would work and it is indeed a slow process... but nevertheless it does work. As Carolyn says, the skin is organic... the "skin is like an elastic band" metaphor where it states that "like an elastic band, when repeatedly stretched the skin will lose its elastic" isn't completely a good analogy because an elastic band is not organic and therefore cannot gain elasticity again once it has been stretched; the skin, however, is alive and in a constant state of renewal: there is always a chance to improve its condition. The program works wonderfully for people of any age - exercise in general is beneficial so people of all age can benefit from exercising the face. I am doing a few bonus exercises that Carolyn has in her newsletters but I have not ordered a copy of her workbook - she sends newsletters online and those include exercises for the decollate area, the neck, the jowls and the "side" crows feet. I hope to purchase the workbook soon because it has some extra exercises that I would like to add to my routine. The bonus exercises, however, are not comprehensive and should be used as add-ons to the first, base program because the base program works the ENTIRE face for an even build. I hope my full answer wasn't too much - I'm really just incredibly enthusiastic about it.
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Louise20, you are so young, I'm 36 and my face shape now is more like it was in high school! I've been doing CFF for 6 months. Plus the bonuse ones for 1 month. I'm trying to lift my festoons because of Botox. I'm so happy you found CFF at an early age. Man why couldn't i of been as smart as you! Carolyn believes that in the next several months I should see improvement. I'm praying for my eyes back. I've been devastated over what Botox did. Thanks for replying back!
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H/F,Yoga very valid point,The whole training principle is only successful in tune with a correct eating plan, facially or otherwise,and its been proven over many decades, however it is a choice isnt it, we either dont bother and go with the flow with the tribe, gaining very little, and moaning,eating convo foods and reaping zero rewards, or we can plan ahead,and have a good chance of getting there.
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