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How can I keep the color of my permanent lip liner?

By kscooter on 06 Oct 2008

i have had 5 procedures on my lips and no one can get the color to stay. The first girl made my lips look like i had hypotherma blue/purple. I then went to someone else 3 months later and it looks a little better but still not correct. It still looks a little too dark and there is not a smooth line around lips, it's very blotchy. I do get cold sores and did take all meds before procedure but it's still not working. Can anyone tell me how to make the color last?

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Eyes_N_Lips_4_U (64 posts) 15 Oct 2008
Lips should be considered an advanced procedure and unfortunately with most states lack of training requirements, many technicians are performing lip procedures who really should not be performing them. It's very unfortunate but common for technicians to have received only a week or less training in permanent makeup. A person can NOT learn it well in that amount of time! Your first visit was probably the result of someone with inadequate color theory as it pertains to lips. As to blotchy color, this may be due to color selection or technique. What area of the US do you live?
Cathy Sciacca (1 post) 30 Nov 2008
I am so glad that you are posting on this sight. It is hard to find a sight where people are very happy with the results of their permanent make-up. I do have a couple of questions that I hope you can help me with. Eight or nine years ago I had my eye liner, lip liner and then entire lips done. The man that did mine had his own Salon in Salinas California and he taught permanent make-up classes. I can not even tell you how wonderful his work was, unfortunately he moved, I think to Georgia but I am not sure. When he worked on me he used a topical anesthetic and there was really no pain involved in the procedures. As you can imagine there is only a little liner left and it is right along the hair line on my eyes and my lips are pretty much gone. My sister who lives in Southern California just got her eye liner done on Tuesday evening and she arrived at my house Wednesday afternoon for the Thanksgiving weekend. Several gals in her office have gone to the same salon that she went to and their work has been beautiful. My sister just loves her eyes and so do I. I will be traveling down to her house at Christmas and have made an apt to have my eyes done. The salon that she goes to gives you a shot around your eyes after the topical ointment, they said this makes it possible for them to go deeper with the color and it lasts much much longer. That makes sense but do you think it is a good idea? Also she was told to use Neosporin for 3 days and then to allow her eyes to scab over but not to peel the scabs off, just allow them to form and then come off on their own. I was told to use Bag Balm several times a day for a week or more and not to allow the area to scab over. What do you suggest for the after care. Thank you for answering my questions. Cathy
Eyes_N_Lips_4_U (64 posts) 1 Dec 2008
I have never been an advocate of eye injections as there is little room for excess fluid and as a result quite severe swelling can take place. Personally, I have never seen anesthetic injections performed around the eye without much bruising and swelling. It is my opinion that this adds to the trauma of the procedure itself and makes the healing time much more difficult. Was your sister bruised the day after her procedure with anesthetic injections? If the person doing the injections is doing them legally and is able to perform them safely and without undue swelling and bruising and you like this persons work, I would say you have likely found a good resource for quality cosmetic tattooing. "Going deeper" is not always good. Our target of desired pigment placement is a very thin and distinct layer of skin within the dermis. If a technician places pigment below that the result is muddy ashy colors that spread under the skin because the pigment was tattooed into the sub-dermis. Also, never use anti-biotic ointments for the healing of a cosmetic tattoo. There are special products made for this and the high incident of allergic reactions to anti-biotic ointments such as the one you mention has proven over the years to be problematic and has not been acceptable industry standard for 8-9 years now. This is another good example of why professional organization certification is a good idea; it requires technicians to update their knowledge with current education. Bag Balm; not on eyes. Its really too thick for any of the three procedure sites, but for eyes in particular it can be a problem. If you google 'tattoo aftercare product' you will find many options. One of my favorites is Naturally Whits Finishing Touch. It has no petroleum products. I'm hopeful your questions have been answered suitably.

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