Los Alamitos Rhinoplasty Doctors and Reviews

“Surgery Scheduled for May 31! -...”

Hello! It has helped so much to read everyone's rhinoplasty experience on this website! Everyone here seems very understanding and supportive which helped me to come start on my own experience. My story is similar to many on this site, I'm 20 years old and I have disliked my nose since I was about 11 or 12. My nose does not look too bad from the front, but the profile is what I have a problem... more

“Nobody Noticed! -Newport Beach, CA”

I went to Dr Bandy for a very subtle rhinoplasty. I didn't have a horrible nose but I had a few things that really bothered me about my nose. She really understood excatly what I wanted and I could not be happier with the results. My nose looks so natural and most importantly it looks just like me but a improved version. Her attention to detail is phenomenal. I felt like she really understood... more

“Dr Don Yoo Performed a...”

Dr Don Yoo performed a rhinoplasty/septoplasty on me – and my nose looks FANTASTIC!! And it looks better than I could have ever imagined. My nose was severely deviated with a large bump. I also had difficulty breathing and hated my profile. The results - It looks amazing!!! I couldn’t be happier with the outcome. My family and friends say my nose looks great and very natural and some have... more

“*UPDATED* 15 days post op! LOVE IT”

I'm 24 and have disliked my nose since I hit puberty. I feel like it suddenly got too big for my face, and has a round, bulbous tip. I work in the film industry in Los Angeles and always find myself getting my picture taken. I especially hate the way my nose photographs since it has a deviated septum and seems to slant to the left. I feel like I look witchy in pictures. I started... more

“He Really is One of the Best...”

Six months ago I had a Rhinoplasty with Dr. Frankel. I had an older brother who also had Rhinoplasty and he originally had one by somebody else, but he had bad reactions of the stitches and it didn't go well and he went to Dr. Frankel. When I came around because I really did not like my nose, I just went to Dr. Frankel. He did a really great job. The second he saw me, he knew exactly what to... more

“Amazing Rhinoplasty Experience,...”

SO, I am a beautiful girl as you can see in my before photo. I have never been teased or really self conscience about my nose. To put it simply, I didn't like the way the tip drooped in pictures and I thought my bridge was a little wide, I wanted refinement and a softer, more feminine profile. One of my challenges was other peoples reaction to my decision, my advise, only tell who you HAVE to.... more

“Best Decision I've Ever Made -...”

Dr. Calvert did a rather difficult rhinoplasty for me. Prior to my surgery I could barely smell or taste. I could not breathe through the left side of my nose and hated how my nose looked. Post surgery, I can breathe much better, smell and taste better and my nose looks how I had always dreamed it would. I still look like me, but my nose is smaller, more symmetrical and fits my face much... more

“Thrilled with my Experience -...”

I'm not a big review person - but seeing as though I read numerous reviews before having my surgery, I feel obligated to share my experience, as well as compliment this amazing practice. Unbiased from any other reviews I'm going solely off my experience with Profiles Beverly Hills. Unfortunately, most of my life I faced a constant battle with a deviated septum and multiple nose fractures.... more

“5 Stars for Every Category for my...”

He said my nose was in the worst shape than any other nose he has ever worked on. I had a deviated septum, very narrow nasal passages, damage from drug use (he was not judgmental at all) and a bump that always annoyed me. I hear of people that damage their noses from drug use having to get four surgeries and having to go through long periods of recovery time. I had one surgery and was back to... more

“My Nose Looks Bent from Front on...”

I had rhinoplastly done 3 months ago, and my nose looks great from side on but from front on it looks bent and when I take photos you can really tell. I'm only 17 and I asked for a natural look. Please help I'm stressing! I know It has a long time to heal But I'm just nervous. I know it is still early but any help and answe would be great! more

“Rhinoplasty with Chin Augmentation -...”

It took me almost a year to decide I was ready. My biggest concern was going under in surgery, I had a little heart issue and was honestly just scared. I finally pushed myself to do it and everything turned out great. The day of surgery, I felt calm when I thought I would be anxious. They gave me a little drug that calmed me down. I remember laying on the table getting ready to go under and... more

“Dr. Elam is an Artist Happiest Girl...”

I flew from Miami to have my nose done by Dr. Elam because I had several friends who told me he was the best rhinoplasty surgeon hands down! They were right!! I had my procedure done and my nose looks so natural and fits my features perfect. The added benefit of my new nose is that I can breath so much better as well. My parents were so worried about me having my nose done and changing my... more

“July 8th - Surgery Scheduled! - Los...”

I've always been considered a pretty girl, however my nose bugs the crap out of me when I smile, and take photos. The columella hangs low, and the tip is slightly bulbous. My right nostril is also slightly higher than the left side, which makes me dislike my profile on my right side. I have read reviews on this website from other's stories, and looked at PS websites. The doctors I've read... more

“I Feel Really Bad About my Nose...”

Well I was born with a cute and small nose I had a great childhood but once I reached 22 yo my nose started getting big and weired and then ppl around me noticed and started commenting on it it was getting bigger and bigger every month and it was fast. I'm a respectful smart calm and polite guy but once my nose started turning to the left everyone disrespected me and made fun of me even my... more

“Septo-Rhino with Skin Graft: Post Op...”

At the time of creation of this post, I am on my first week post-operation of a septoplasty, rhinoplasty using ear cartilage, and skin graft using skull tissue. It has already been physically and emotionally rough. I hope that this blog will serve as a helpful account for anyone considering the same type of procedure. -- THE GOALS In regards to septoplasty, I had a deviated septum... more

“Day Two”

I am scheduled to have an open rhinoplasty done seventeen days from now during my high-school spring intersession. I have never been teased or bullied but instead have decided to have the procedure done since I am self-conscious and feel it isn't proportional to my facial features. I have read a number of blogs and watched several YouTube videos on experiences which have helped me gain an... more

“My Rhinoplasty (Middle Eastern Nose)...”

I had broken my nose in wrestling several times. I had trouble breathing and my nose look exteremly big and swollen. I had the surgery done two months ago and so far everything has gone well and my nose looks very natural and my breathing is much better. When I look at my old pictures last week, I noticed the big change but my nose looks so good and natural that my friends can not tell that I... more

“Rhinoplasty, Tummy Tuck, and Breast...”

Dr. Calvert is an excellent plastic surgeon and he helped me breathe again. I had a deviated septum that was so bad, I couldn't breathe. I had previously had a rhinoplasty done to correct it, but the ENT doctor who did the surgery while I was on Active Duty, (yes, I'm a Veteran) didn't correct the deviated septum and for 10 years I still couldn't breathe until I was referred to the Plastic... more

“Just Scheduled my Consultation -...”

I am looking forward to my rhinoplasty have not decided on what ps I will use I really like his before and after pix. If anyone knows of any other ps that spec. On rhinoplasty in southern California please let me know. I plan on checking out at least 5. I had a septoasty however didn't fix my nose it is still crooked. Praying all gos well looking to have my surgery mid April.Hello everyone... more

“Perfect Nose, Less Than Perfect...”

8 months post-op and I am in LOVE with the results. My nose looks natural and perfect at the same time, and people I see regularly don't believe I've had surgery even when I tell them. My mother even forget, and she flew out to help me recover!  Dr. Motykie is pricey, about double the national average from the looks of it. Save your money and pay him in cash or with a 2-year... more

“Rhinoplasty/septoplasty Great...”

Dr. Ali Sajjadian and his office staff are very professional, reliable and comforting. My surgery went as planned as Dr. Sajjadian came to the pre-op room to check in and go over the procedure one more time. I felt once again, comforted by his acknowledgment of my fears and anxiety before surgery. In addition, the surgery center could not have been better staffed and friendly. Post-op... more

“Love my New Nose - Newport Beach, CA”

I had rhinoplasty in 2010 and having it done has made me friendly, more outgoing with people. I want everyone to notice my nose because it looks so good and everyone complements my nose as they say that i have a beautiful profile and when I tell them i had rhinoplasty no one believes me because it looks so natural. I am not self conscious about it and I feel more beautiful and honestly I... more

“Dr jay calvert is a genius - Beverly...”

Dr calvert fixed my big persian nose and did a great job! He made it smaller more narrow and fixed my breathing and sinus issues.He did a great job and can def recommend him for fixing big noses! I went to many doctors before and they all told me it could be fixed but not the way i wanted.Dr jay Calvert was the only one who told me everything is possible what i had in my mind and... more

“Very Happy! Very Grateful - Los...”

My cast was taken off three days ago. Even though there is still quite a bit of swelling, my nose is beautiful and I can hardly believe that it is mine. For most of my life I disliked the appearance of my nose. It was over-projected, deviated to the right, with a larger tip. I spent my 8 days of recovery completely worry-free about the outcome because I trusted that Dr. Rawnsley would give... more

“Loved my Nose Job from Dr. Richard...”

I recently went to Dr. Richard Zoumalan for a nose job and I could not be happier. Not only was he extremely professional and kind, he truly is the best at what he does. I met with many doctors in the area, but Dr. Richard Zoumalan is the only one who guaranteed me that I would still look like my self, but without that awful bump! When I saw the results, I couldn't believe how good it came... more

“Cast OFF!!!! - Orange County, CA”

So I have been reading these reviews for months now and have finally decided to make one of my own! I have always wanted to change my nose ever since i was around 12 when someone made fun of me in Middle School! I didn't even really think about my nose until then and it's been on my mind ever since. I am always so self conscious in pictures at certain angles especially the side view. I have no... more

“Best Experience Ever - Beverly Hills, CA”

I first met Dr.Zoumalan last year when I came to him for my nose. I was very unhappy with my hump on my nose and how crooked it was. I also had serious sinus issues and breathing issues for years that i couldn't treat by medication anymore. And it was nice to see what I would look like after surgery. I had my surgery in October and its January and it changed my life. First off, my nose looks... more

“Nobody 'Nose' Better Than Dr....”

I had been having breathing problems due to a deviated septum causing my airway to be bent. Needless to say I am extremely pleased with the results, it has not only changed my physical appearance but also my confidence. The surgery was painless, and recovery time lasted only about a week for me and I was able to go back to work. more

“Cast is off!!!”

After months of research I decided to go to Dr. G. I never thought I would have to get surgery on my face but after a horrible accident I want a new nose. I always loved my nose until I broke it playing softball in middle school and then again 4 months ago when I tripped and planted face first on the bed frame as we were moving. I have been to five consults in Miami and WPB (where I live) but... more

“Reborn, Nose Job, Upper Lip Lift,...”

1 word about Dr Haworth, that is BRILLANT - he did ask me to write a review and I had no hesitation-with pleasure Doc! ...I gotta admit I was a bit of a difficult patient with doctors and people "of authority" in the past- I am a recovering addict and a former top model- I had my demons and I felt and looked like sh*t,!!!I threw away my femininity-I was angry and felt sorry for myself.... more

“Love the Result! - Los Angeles, CA”

I broke my nose playing basketball about 10 years ago and have a very noticeable hump and most of all, long nose(I guess they call it a nose tip). So  Anyways, I finally got my surgery and it's now been about 6 months and I'm very satisfied with what I see in the mirror. I don't think I'll be playing basketball again because I don't want to pay another $4,000, instead I think I'll just be... more

“Loving my new nose- Newport Beach, CA”

I have considered doing my nose since I was a teenager. I never liked the pointy, wide nose look of my nose. I want my nose to fit my face. I had my pre-op today! I was excited but now I have mixed emotions, I guess this is normal. I trust the doctor who I chose. I think once I see results and all is over with I will feel I am glad I did it! Any pointers of encouragement will help? and if... more

“Truly an Artist. - Beverly Hills, CA”

I had a finesse rhinoplasty with Dr. S&L at Profiles Beverly Hills. By "finesse" I mean I wanted specific changes to be made to my nose that wouldn't affect my overall "look". I'm a young model, and I didn't want to look "plastic" at all. I normally bruise like a pear, however I had almost zero bruising which is fantastic, as I am not telling my friends/family about the procedure. I... more

“2 Months - Will the sausage look...”

I've been considering this procedure forever! Never felt ugly but was always bothered by my nose. Whenever I get ready, I always feel like my nose is the one aspect of my face that just ruins it for me. I always think I'd look prettier and more confident if I didnt have this hump. From the front I look fine, I got big eyes, so it takes away from it. But the side profile is terrible. I HATE... more

“After 11yrs of Looking I Did It in...”

So like everyone else here..I've never liked my nose. I have had a masculine looking nose.. Everything was wrong with it! The bridge was to wide .. Nostrils.. And tip was ginormous ...lol. After wanting to get my surgery for many years.. I've shopped and got estimates from like 5 doctors through out the years.. But never had the money to do it. I even got a lil desperate and went to Mexico... more

“Rhinoplasty/Botox - Beverly Hills, CA”

As for results, I've gotten a lot of compliments since I've had a rhinoplasty/botox with him. I haven't reached one year post op on my nose yet, so I can't comment on the final result, but I do see great improvement. I'll leave a review for the final result whenever that may be. I hope it goes back to shape it had when the cast came off, because that looked perfect. more

“Amazing Experience with Rhinoplasty...”

I've always hated my nose and after both of my sisters and my cousin got it done I finally decided to go through with it with Dr. Elam. I felt as though my nose was too wide in the front and my side profile was a disaster. It had a hump and my tip was boxy and droopy. Both of my parents are middle eastern which is where I got it from. I am currently 3 days post op and can't wait to get my cast... more

“Couldn't Be More Pleased - Beverly...”

After talking to several surgeons in the Los Angeles area, I decided to go with Dr. Litner and his partner Dr. Solieman because they listened to my (admittedly) minor issues with my nose and understood exactly what I was after. I needed a light hand and a delicate touch- a bit of artistry. The surgery went off without a hitch, my recovery was fast and painless. I had multiple follow up... more

“Rhinoplasty/septoplasty/sinus...”

I originally saw my ENT for sinus issues. After an X-ray of my sinuses we noticed I had a complete blockage on one side and a very deviated septum to boot. While in his office he suggested that I should have the bump on my nose done too. Personally I don't think I'd get my nose done just to have it reshaped. I've lived with this nose for 44 years and the shape of it never really bothered me... more

“Rhinoplasty Perfection! - Orange...”

The second I stepped foot into the office, his staff was extremely welcoming to my family and I and I felt right at home. I had a broken nose from soccer in college and along with it not being straight; I had a terrible deviated septum and trouble breathing. I knew I wanted to get it fixed when I graduated and got referred to Dr. Elam from a family friend. I no longer lived in California and... more

“Counting Down the Days! - Beverly...”

I met with Dr. Simoni on 11/20/12 at his Beverly Hills office. Before meeting with him I had met with Dr. Fisher in Yorba Linda. Dr.Fisher was my first consultation which was awful because they told me I couldn't meet with the the Dr. until I scheduled my surgery? Ummmm yeah thats not going happen. Dr. Simoni on the other hand was very thorough during the consultation and made me feel at ease... more

“Left my Face Deformed - Beverly...”

I got rhinoplasty off dr ghavami last year and,he left 5 deformitys in my nose,he took so much off d profile it colapsed he left no collumella an it collapsed, he left pig snout deformity.destroyed the skin by burning the cells so it looks like mush and when i only wanted my nose brought in a bit he left my face deformed,i wish i chose anyone else.  more

“Cast off. Tip swollen but cute-...”

I am like every other person here who has grown up hating there nose. My nose is huge and bulbous. I have been told that I have thick skin but not too bad. The main thing that makes me nervous is that my Dr. seems a little overworked and in a hurry. But I love his results, the pictures I have seen. I met him today for my pre op and he seems confident in being able to deliver the results I... more

“Horrible Rhinoplasty . The Tip of...”

Went in for rhinoplasty. I chose Dr. Lee because of all of those advertisements, but I chose the wrong doctor. First, he was 2 hours late for my surgery because something went wrong with the patient before me. (It was probably a bad outcome as well.) Then,it was my turn. Months later, I voiced my concern about the tip of my nose and regarding the hump in the middle of my nose which I NEVER... more

“I Need to Schedule a Rhinoplasty in...”

I've wanted to get surgery for a long time as I have a big long nose but I have been too afraid and also could not afford it. I have gone to a few free consultations and now it's the moment of truth -- i need to pick a Dr. this week and I'm not sure how. Seen Dr. Jason Hamilton, Dr. Michael Persky, Dr. Richard Fleming and Dr. Paul Nassif. Any advice??? Is there a really talented facial surgeon... more

“The Beginning of a Fresh Start -...”

Hello everyone, I am a 19 year old female living in Los Angeles, California. I have never been picked on about my nose but I have always felt very self conscious about it. I have finally saved up enough for it, and I have scheduled a consultation for Thursday, November 15. I really hope it goes well and I am able to go through with it A.S.A.P. I just wanted to share my experience with you... more

“Great Experience - Los Angeles, CA”

I had a bump on my nose after it had been broken. I was very self-conscious about it. Now I have no bump on my nose and it's no longer broken, it's fixed and beautiful. I now have the nose I always wanted. The procedure didn't hurt at all. The recovery time was fast. more

“Skilled Surgeon and Artist That...”

Dr. Sadati really looked at my nose and chin and gave me a nose that I look like I was born with and took away the excess fat under my chin so I look thinner and younger. The nose was actually fairly painless and healed pretty quickly except for the deep bruising I had. The chin took longer to heal and was numb for many weeks and will still take several months more to fully heal but it looks... more

“My Nose Looks Great and my Breathing...”

A friend referred me to Dr Sajjadian because she said he was the best at nose surgery. I was always bothered by my nose and wanted it to be nicer looking. My nose had a hump on the bridge and the tip was curved down-- it did not look feminine or attractive. I had also breathing problem, frequent headaches and sinus issues. When I frist met Dr Sajjadian, I felt at ease and comfortable instantly... more

“My Nose Looks Amazing and Had an...”

Dr. Elam and his staff where exceptional in every aspects of my rhinoplasty. They made me feel comfortable when taking about my fears and insecurities, no judgment. They were very easy to get in touch with and always accommodated my hectic schedule. Dr. Elam is so experience both in his people skills and as a skilled surgeon. I put complete faith in Dr. Elam and I am extremely glad I did. My... more

“Rhinoplasty Consultation - Beverly...”

Friendly doctor. I will be getting my rhinoplasty here as soon as possible. I got a free consultation and was not pressured into purchasing anything. His staff is wonderful. They really know how to make you feel welcome. I trust that this doctor will do an amazing job on my nose once the time comes. more

“My Nose Looks Beautiful Now Thanks...”

I was always self-conscious about my nose. I had a huge middle eastern nose with a big hump which was very unattractive and my nose went down in the tip. I was always worried that people did stare on my nose--that's how bad it was. I felt beautiful and people would tell me that but the nose was out of harmony with my face. I was thinking about doing my nose for a very long time. Now my nose... more

“The Best Doc in Town - Beverly Hills, CA”

I did a lot of research when looking for a Dr. who specialized in Rhinoplasty. Been to 4 docs including Dr. Kanodia (the famous nose guy who was aweful) and finally decided on Dr. Torkian. He spent almost 2 hours with me on my free of charge, 3-D aided consultation. He is pretty much the most attentive doc you'll ever meet. Did my surgery 8 months ago and couldn't be happier with results. My... more

“Worst Decision in my Life - Beverly...”

I was suffering from a deviated septum and difficulty breathing. i went to dr.litner and his partner dr.soliemen because of what i thought were honest reviews. but i have to say having them perform my surgery was the biggest mistake in my life. They have completely destroyed my breathing and the aesthitic look of my nose and am now currently looking for a skilled revision surgeon. Please... more

“I Highly Recommend Dr. Bandy if...”

I broke my nose twice and I've had 2 reconstructive surgeries with 2 other doctors. I didn't receive the results I wanted with the previous dr.'s and I felt that they both did what the wanted and didn't listen to my opinions. When I came to Dr. Bandy I was so self-concious about my crooked and unpretty nose and hesitant to have another surgery. When I spoke with Dr. Bandy she made me feel so... more

“My Septorhinoplasty Was a Success! -...”

I had my deviated septum for years, and a bump in my nose i also wanted to get rid off, but i am the type of person that i do not like change, especially in my face, i was afraid if i was goin to have surgery i was going to look different. Then one of my friends had a rinoplasty years back with dr Elam, and she looked faboulous, so the thougth of having surgery lingered on my mind for years.... more

“Best Thing I've Ever Done for Myself...”

I was relieved to find out my insurance would cover a large part of the surgery because of my deviated septum. The entire process from consult, pre op, to operation day was so incredibly easy I can't believe it. My surgery was scheduled for about a month after my consult The day of surgery I was pretty nervous but Dr. and his awesome nurses and anesthesiologist were amazing. They... more

“I Need a Revision Specialist Please...”

Hi, I had a nose job almost 2years ago; I had the worst surgeon in LA. Very un professional, rude, the whole office the stuff is rude, when you go for consultation, they are so fake with you, they make you think he is the only surgeon! I made the biggest mistake of my life, I wish I have never ever gone, to this doctor. Unfortunately I didn’t research, It has been the longest 2 years... more

“My Rhinoplasty Journey - Huntington...”

For a long time I though my nose was just to big for my face that it overwhelmed and unbalanced my face a lot. So the morning of august 16th i had my rhinoplasty done. Its now been 24 hours sense then and I am glad i got through the first night as I think that is the hardest. I trust my doctor completely and I am glad I chose him. Here is what i look like the day after surgery. Going... more

“I Love my New Nose I Can't Believe I...”

I am so happy with my entire experience with Michael Elam MD! I just love him he is so wonderful! He did such a great job if you didn't know me before you would never know I had a nose job it looks so natural and perfect. The entire staff is great I especially love the receptionist Molly. I feel so much better about my self and I can breathe so much better he not only fixed how my nose looks... more

“Getting one seems promising this year!”

Hello everyone! I'll chime in with my thoughts and experience now. It seems people grow self-conscious of their noses at around 12-13, and it's the same with myself. Until a few years ago, I didn't give it much thought aside from pinching it in mirrors just to see how it would appear altered because I thought I'd learn to live with it and/or grow in it. Neither of those have happened, and I'm... more

“On to a Revision...primary Was Very...”

Hello, I chose a pair of surgeons in LA to do my primary. I ended up with a very conspicuous graft that must be removed, a retracted columella and retracted nostrils. I will now have to have a revision that will take at least 3.5-6 hours in the OR and cost upwards of $11,000.I had a primary with this doctor a couple of years ago. I ended up with a retracted columella because my cartilages were... more

“Don't Go to Dr. Bruno if You Are in...”

I got an ethnic rhinoplasty from dr. bruno and the results were less than what i had expected. he slapped an implant on top of my nose and barely reduced the nostrils, which is what i needed the most. it was much less refined than what i wanted it to be. i had to find another surgeon to reduce the size of my nostrils since dr. bruno was unable to do a sufficient job the first time. during the... more

“Nose, Nose go away! UPDATE: Date...”

Ever since I was a kid I realized my nose was not cute at all. It didnt look bad when I was really little but once puberty hit it grew and morphed along with the rest of me! Its long, wide, has a bump and to me always looked like a witch nose =O I think the boys that knew me in school would agree because in school I wasnt one of the best looking girls on campus. Growing up some friends... more

“Finally Had my Nose Done After Years...”

Had it done in 2010 after moving to Los Angeles at the age of 24. I started modeling when I was younger and felt like my nose was definately holding me back from a full potential, by giving me a too ethnic look. I have always had a big nose with a bump that didn't match the rest of my softer and more aesthetic facial features. So finally I saved up and got the courage to go to a bunch of... more

“Don't Know What to Feel - Beverly...”

I've been considering rhino for a few years now...every time something happens and I put it off. My last bf...when he found out I wanted it, pretty much threatened to break up with me. My current bf when I told him...he was supportive and told me its up to me and he'll support me either way (but I better not start getting anything else done...like boobs etc...lol ...of course not!) I... more

“Decision in the Making - West Covina, CA”

I have been wanting to get a nose job for a really long time but I have lacked the money to do it (to be honest, I really don't even have the money now). I have made 4 consultation appointments for the month of June; my first one being this Friday, June 1st. I am a little nervous because I don't know what to expect at one of these things. Throughout my childhood I always got made fun of... more

“Rhinoplasty - Glendora, CA”

So I've been considering getting my nose done for over two years now and i think i'm ready to finally take the plunge but still not 100% sure! i'm not sure why i started disliking my nose, i feel that the negative feelings toward my nose started about 2-3 years ago, so it has not been a lifetime feeling. i'm not sure if it changed or I've become more insecure but i now feel insecure about my... more

“Best Surgery Experience - Santa...”

There are nothing but pros from this surgery. I am so glad that I had this surgery because I have always been self-conscious of the profile of my nose, but now it looks so great and people compliment me all the time, but they have no idea what I had done. I would have this surgery all over again in a heartbeat because it has changed my life. The only thing that I regret was not meeting Dr.... more

“A Miracle Worker! - Glendale, CA”

At the age of 41, I finally decided to get rhinoplasty, something I’d wanted since I was a teenager. I’m no stranger to body modifications – I’ve had a breast augmentation and have been extensively tattooed. But facial cosmetic surgery made me very nervous. After all, it’s right there in the middle of your face. If it turns out bad, there’s no way to hide it... more

“Orange County Septorinoplasty -...”

I am in the process of choosing my surgeon to get a nose job on the week of May 22... I am 23 years old and have always hated my big Italian/polish nose and as soon as I graduate college in May it's gone. I live in the Orange County region and would love if the surgeon I choose can be in this area as well...so far I have only visited 1 surgeon. He is very friendly and I liked the... more

“Happy Repeat Customer from 5 Yrs Ago...”

My nose hump & barely there chin with neck fat always bothered me & I dreaded photos from my upcoming wedding day so I got it fixed and was thrilled! The hump was removed, I had a chin implant, neck lift with lipo to remove the fat. I had lost 90 lbs and my skin was very loose. For the first time, I had a nice profile and loved the results. My own brother doesn't know I had surgery... more

“Surgery done!”

Hello, After many years of thinking about it I finaly got brave and dicided to do it. Went for my consulation with Dr Walter Dishell in Encino, CA. Seems like a very nice doctor with many years if experience with facial surgery. He is also ENT. Just trying to see if anybody had a surgery with him or heard of him? Well, I've been reading a lot of reviews and seeing a lot of before &... more

“Rhinoplasty Surgery - Newport Beach, CA”

I had a nose that did not come close to fitting my face, I felt like it was blocking the rest of me from looking the way I should. I felt as if it took all the attentions away from everything else. more

“Open Rhinoplasty/Septoplasty- Los...”

So after browsing this site for a couple months I decided to start documenting my own process. I'm in the southern California area and have been searching for a Doctor since the new year. Unfortunately, I discovered it's incredibly hard to find information and honest reviews. Right now I have a consultation with Dr. Rawnsley next week, and am considering Dr. Hilinski and Dr.... more

“Definitely Worth It - Newport Beach, CA”

I wanted to get surgery to fix my septum and also get a turbinate reduction to help me breath. Dr. Sadati also lifted the tip of my nose and took off my hump. I also had fat transferred from my stomach to under my eyes to fill in the hollowness. This was my first time getting surgery and was a fairly good experience. My only complaint is still fading after 3 months, but I have very fair skin.... more

“Rhinoplasty in Newport Beach, CA”

I have always disliked my nose. I was often made fun of because of its size and it unfortunately has affected how I view myself. I have a wide nose with a hump and no real definition. I think it's just a blob that takes up way too much of my face. I scheduled my consultation with Dr. Elam on the 4th of February. The consultation went wonderfully. I was shown what my nose should look... more

“Best Decision Ever, and Best Doctor...”

I can not say enough about Dr. Rollin Daniel, and the job he did on my nose. I had a hook nose, which looked ok from the front, but NOT good from the side. This is something I have wanted to do forever, but of course making such a major change to your face is nerve wrecking. However, I could not be more happy with my decision to go forward with the procedure, and mostly my choice of doctor... more

“Amazing - Beverly Hills, CA”

I always felt uncomfortable and unattractive with my nose and i wanted to get a nose job for years and i finally did and i am ecstatic about it! I am 18 years old and i have always wanted to get my nose done, and i finally did it just over 3 weeks ago with Dr. Kotler.  I have never had any kind of surgery before, so i was really nervous and so were my parents, but it was an amazing... more

“Love my Rhinoplasty Results -...”

I had a large hump and a drooping tip that I was unhappy with. I had some swelling and bruising post op but nothing unexpected. Overall I had very little pain and only took an occasional OTC pain reliever. more

“Still Me, Only Better - Newport...”

I wanted a thinner bridge & a more refined tip. Also, I had breathing problems due to enlarged turbinates. I've never had a really big issue with my nose; I have always liked my profile & 3/4 view, but have always wanted it to be a little thinner head-on with more of a defined tip. I've also had breathing problems resulting from enlarged turbinates. So my most important... more

“Glad I Had Rhinoplasty - CA”

My nose has always been crooked with one nostril smaller than the other. I had never liked my profile due to the hump on my nose and the long look of my nose. Rhinoplasty wasn't something I 'had' to do but one of those things in life that I have always wondered 'what if.' I'm so glad I took the leap to do this for myself. I had surgery on 12/14/11. My doctor is an... more

“Rhinoplasty - Los angeles ca”

It's been about a month since my surgery, and I have noticed that one of my nostrils are bigger than the other.. I felt like my left nostril is smaller than the right... Is my nose still swollen? It's quite nerve wrecking since I don't want my nose to turn out like this.. Tomorrow will be my one month post op... Please help me out..I've been so emotional and my confidence has... more

“Upturned Nose and Nostril Asymmetry...”

Hi all. I had minor rhino (2 hr procedure) about 20 days ago. My only request was to narrow the width. Unfortunately my nose seems a little shorter and the tip is rotated upward. Initially, I looked like Miss Piggy right after the procedure, but I knew it was due to the swelling. To top it off, I had a sinus infection. So I was feeling REAL good. Anyhow, good news is the swelling has gone... more

“Love my New Nose :) - Marina Del Rey, CA”

I had been unhappy with the bump on my nose for years, I hated the way it looked in pictures but never had the courage to actually get/have plastic surgery. I finally decided to go in for a consultation and at least get an idea of what a rhinoplasty entailed. Dr.Stevens made me feel so comfortable during my consultation I decided to schedule surgery that same day. At my pre-op he answered all... more

“Perfect nose - Newport Beach, CA”

Improve breathing and overall appearance. I recently had rhino/septoplasty done by Dr. Elam and am so glad that I chose him to do the procedure. My nose looks outstanding and it fits my face perfectly. The surgery went by seamlessly and I have healed very quickly. The process and outcome both greatly exceeded my original hopes.About two months ago I had rhinoplasty done by Dr. Elam and I... more

“My 2 Year Old Rhinoplasty Went Bad.....”

I selected a very famous, well-known doctor who claims to be an expert in ethnic procedures. I did visit many doctors from Orange County to Beverly Hills, and I ended up using the one that was the best sales man with a pushy staff of sales people. My recommendation #1: If you go to an office which has someone besides the doctor telling you the cost and about the procedure, walk out fast... If... more

“My Nose Was Shattered in an Accident...”

My nose had to be rebuilt after being shattered. Dr. Fleming was nothing short of amazing. Thrilled with the results and now looking forward to going back and having a neck lift! I had my rhinoplasty as a result of an accident where my nose was broken....actually shattered. My healing and recovery went very well and I had no problems during the recovery...a little bruising that is to be... more

“Looks 100% Natural - Newport Beach, CA”

I broke my nose when I was in high school, I am now in my early thirties. My nose was deviated to the right side, I had a slight bulge between the eye and my nose from the bone healing on the left side, and my right nostril would collapse under hard breathing. I also had a bulbous tip that I wanted to fix. I had a Rhinoplasty and Septoplasty done. Dr. Sajjadian said my nose did not want to... more

“Rhinoplasty, Septoplasty - Beverly...”

After 17 years of not being happy with my nose, I finally decided to take the plunge. I am ethnically Afghan and had a big bump on my nose that I am convinced I made worse by breaking it a few times as a child. In addition to the bump, it was also crooked! I waited for a long time before even going for a consultation because I pretty much knew that I needed a full reconstruction. To me that... more

“Truly the Best! - Newport Beach, CA”

Esthetically, Deviated Septum, Turbinate Reduction I researched plastic surgeons all over the world. Yes the world hours each day for years and noticed most doctors are extremely conservative and the ones that aren't leave you looking like Michael Jackson where it's so obvious anyone looking at them would know right away 'Hey! She/ He had a nose job!'  I also noticed... more

“Smooth surgery”

Boosted self confidence, went smoothly! I've wanted rhinoplasty since 11 years old. My big Jewish nose haunted me and distracted from my other flattering features. Seeing so much bad plastic surgery, I made it a mission to find the best surgeon FOR ME. Price and distance meant nothing to me, because you want this done right, the first time. If you want honest and extremely helpful... more

“Love my New Nose - Beverly Hills, CA”

I think Dr. Motykie is a fantastic surgeon. He listened to everything I disliked about my nose and gave his professional advice. He fixed my deviated septum, and refined my nose to make it look more feminine AND natural. Many people didn't even realize I had my nose done. I am very happy with my result and I 100% recommend him for a rhinoplasty. more

“Almost a year post-op... still unhappy”

My surgery is scheduled for November 16th, 2011 - exactly six weeks from today. I'm very nervous, but have recently told my family about my decision and they have been overwhelmingly supportive! My nose is just big. It's got a bulbous tip and it just doesn't fit my face. I'm 28 years old and I feel like my face should be a lot softer.. a lot prettier. My nose throws... more

“Best Guy in Town for Nasal Surgery -...”

I wanted to feel better about myself. Since I was about 15 I noticed my face changed in ways that I did not expect. I was on growth hormone therapy and suffered a trauma to my nose and forehead. My tissue thickened up as a result. I was left emotionally scarred and I suffered looking at my face in the mirror. I went looking for doctors because I wanted to feel like myself again. Nobody... more

“Couldn't Have Asked for Better! -...”

I have always been insecure about my nose but was too scared to actually go through with rhinoplasty. After how pleased I was with my entire experience from my breast aug at dr elam's, I decided to go through with it. I am now on day 3 post op & feel amazing! I have virtually no pain or bruising and very minimal amount of swelling. I can't wait until I get my cast off this... more

“Top Notch Nose Scultpting - Newport...”

I chose to have a rhinoplasty procedure done because I was always uncomfortable with the slight bump in the bridge of my nose as well as the bulbous, square tip of my nose. I wanted a subtle change in my overall nose structure. I got exactly what I wanted - a refined nose without the blatant tell tale signs of a nose job. The pain and discomfort were so minimal that even the day of surgery... more

“Such a Great Doctor! - Beverly Hills, CA”

I can't remember a time when I liked my nose or willingly posed for a photo. In recent years, my displeasure with this feature constantly crossed my mind while dating or attending social events. I always wondered if people noticed how big my nose was, the size of the bump at the top, or whether the tip descended too far down my face and basically obscured my upper lip. Despite the... more

“Rhinoplasty - Beverly Hills, CA”

Im beyond devastated with my results, a year later. Initially, theres a reason I went in for it. But the end result was far different than discussed/shown to me. Tip pulled up too high, bridge chiseled beyond agreement. EVERY friend, family member, surgeon, agrees and especially my husband (who stood by me entirely this difficult year---& I dont know why) AGREES that too much was done... more

“The Only Dr. I Would Trust my Nose...”

I couldn't breathe! I would definitely recommend him for any kind of rhinoplasty. I was unable to breathe out of one side of my nose, and Dr. Kotler immediately said he could fix it, no problem. After a great consultation, I left with an appointment for the surgery. The actual surgery was great, went quickly and I had minimal time to recover. He used his new patented nose tubes to... more

“The Best Decision I Made, the Best...”

I have been wanting to have nose job since my early teen years. I have always felt insecure about my nose. Pictures were always screaming big nose to me. People around me naturally kept saying there was nothing wrong with my nose that I was beautiful but if you are reading this you are probably one of those people who is considering this procedure. I have couple of friends who had their... more

“Finally a Dr. Who Cares - Beverly...”

Breathing and cosmetic. The day of surgery arrived before I knew it and again was completely taken care of. My mother had flown in for the surgery and to help me with recovery and was ecstatic with the choice of Doctor. Doctor K treated my mother with extreme care (as I am sure he does for everyone) and took the time to explain the procedure and what she could expect after which made her... more

“Rhinoplasty Expert - Beverly Hills, CA”

I finally felt that it was time for me to go through with rhinoplasty surgery. I just graduated college and my parents and I thought it would be a great time to go ahead with the surgery as I have plenty of time to recover before I have to start working in September. I am so happy with the results of my rhinoplasty. I have always been unhappy with the size of my nose and I knew it was... more

“How long before my nose looks nice...”

I recently had rhino 2 weeks and 4 days ago,i have a problem when i smile i look like a witch and i have a running nose as in it feels like i have a cold,i am a singer and it has changed my voice,is it normal? the price was cheaper because i did 2 surgeries.i am healing really slowly,the dr told me swelling will be gone in 2weeks but is still there i need to return to stage any help on how i... more

“Rhinoplasty is a Crap Shoot - Orange...”

I got a nose job on my giant Jew nose back in 2002. It was an improvement anything would have been I mean it looked like a clown nose. However, it is far from perfect. It collapsed on one side and became crooked as time went on. I recently had a revision by the same doc which was in his words a simple alar graft. I had high hopes but it hasn't turned out so well. The scar tissue has... more

“Got my Nose Back - Marina Del Ray, CA”

Several years ago, I was in a horrible car crash, that resulted in a broken nose. Just new to LA from NYC, I called my doctor out there who recommended Dr. S. During a difficult time, Dr. S couldn't have been more caring, he even made me laugh. I remember telling him "I may not have the best nose, but it is mine and I want it back. If I wake up with (celebrity's name)nose,... more

“Recommend - Glendale, CA”

My nose was crooked, fat, and hooked. Although I knew I wanted to fix my nose, I was terrified of it coming out badly. I just wanted it to look nice and Dr. G did it perfectly. I am very happy. more

“Love My New Nose - Newport Beach, CA”

My nose was a bit long and wide. I only wanted it shaped without looking done. Dr. E did exactly that, and went beyond any of my expectations. I also knew with his Staff, Surgical Team, and Aftercare Nurse I was in the best hands. more

“Great Experience - Beverly Hills, CA”

I had a great experience with my rhinioplasty surgery. The day of surgery I was very nervous but the nurse was very calming and assured me everything would be fine. I saw Dr. K before going into surgery and he explained to me what he was going to do. After waking up the recovery was pretty easy. more

“Best Surgical Experience for Myself...”

To remove a small bump on my nose and enhance my breathing. more

“Orange County Housewive Daughter's...”

My daughter, Megan always wanted to have the bump on the top of her nose fixed. See did and is very happy that it looks so natural. more

“Great Experience - Glendale, CA”

I was debating nose surgery for a very long time. more

“Asymetric Nostrals from the First...”

I had 2 rhinoplasty procedure done. First in 2001 was done to correct my crooked bump on my nose, the other in 2008 to fix the tip. I think the first doctor never addressed the uneven, wide, nostrils, and second tried to do it but couldn't make my nostrils symetric. Now i have asymetric nostrils and one side of nose/nostril is higher than other. My nose doesn't feel soft at all its... more

“Compassionate in Beverly Hills -...”

I always wanted to get my nose done. I had a very severe bump and my nose was crooked in almost a C shape. I had a bigger bump than most of the people I saw on these sights so that did make me a little nervous. I'm so glad that I decided to do it and I'm so glad I choose my doctor. I met with 4 different surgeons before ultimately deciding and I feel that I made the best possible choice. more

“Best Ethnic Rhinoplasty & Breast...”

Never liked my nose. I have always been considered "attractive," and 9 out 0f 10 ppl who knew I was going to do it, told me NOT TO, for fear of 'ruining a good thing." But I just felt that there was a "better nose under my nose somewhere." lol If that makes sense. My breasts, though I'm in my 20's with no children, had begun to sag a bit, from flucuating... more

“Tip Turned Up After Rhinoplasty -...”

I wanted a slight curve in my nose. I now have a bigger curve than anticipated and the tip is turned up too. Im 7 weeks post op. I miss my long nose. It looks so short! Will the tip DROP at all?? more

“Extremely Happy with my Rhinoplasty”

I had my rhinoplasty done by Dr.S. It was one of the best and most life changing decisions i have ever made. I am so happy with the results, i get many compliments on it. I put my full confidence in this doctor and would recommend him to anyone wanting any type of cosmetic surgery, especially rhinoplasty. The procedure not only corrected the physical aspect of my nose but also helped my... more

“Purely Disregarding the Patient's...”

Appearance after the surgery was pretty good, great I should say. However, I had trouble breathing and Dr. did not care to offer a solution or fix the problem after the surgery. I told him before the surgery that I don't care if there will be a little bump, as my goal was tip re-shaping/reduction. Although asked not to be done, the bones were filed/shaved, broken and realigned closer... more

“I Love my Results, Thankful I Went...”

I had combined rhinoplasty and septoplasty done at the same time. I am so happy with my results. It was done just 13 days ago and I already love my new nose. The whole experience went smoothly. I truly believe my doctor is one of the best! It has been almost 7 months since surgery, so more

“There is no bone on the bridge”

Told doctor to correct a previuos surgery. Also asked him to fill in the gaps in the bridge and correct it. As a result he said that he squeezed the bones. The photo taken 3weeks and a half after surgery shows and there are no bones. There was a rapid consultation due to time restrictions. Had rhinoplasty 8yrs ago but it was not successful as doctor was not fully qualified since... more

“Years and Years of Botched...”

I decided to have rhinoplasty performed by a surgeon whose claim to fame was being hailed by Donald Trump as the one he trusted to operate on his beauty pageant contestants. Another factor was the modest discount I received because of my own connections with that industry.The doctor was very nice but his work was crap. In retrospect, I had a very beautiful tip that probably just needed to be r more

“Uneven Nostrils After Rhinoplasty”

Open rhinoplasty to correct uneven bridge and also to remove droopy tip. Happy with results but not sure about scar tissue and nostrils.I had the procedure done in los angeles california in December of 2009.I had rhinoplasty about a month and half ago and my left nostril is a little bit smaller than my right nostirl. The area where my nose was cut for open rhinoplasty also shows more a bump type more

“Rhinoplasty to Fix Bump - an...”

Pros- nose looks a lot better.cons- emotional rollarcoaster.My nose was very big with a bump and I was very embarrassed about it so I decided to fix it.I had rhinoplasty done 22 days ago. Today, I had a tissue near my mouth and my dog jumped on me which caused the tissue to push my top lip up fast. I did not swell or bleed but my bridge felt a little tingly afterwards. Could I have damaged... more

“Swelling on Tip After Nose Surgery -...”

I did it because i hated my profile. and i had my dads manly nose on my face i never liked it. I am happy with the way things turned out. its just a lot of patience because its still very swollen on the tip. i had a hump on my nose and i hated my profile. so i decided to go through with rhinoplasty. i am happy that i got it. just the tip being swollen is more

“Nose Still Bulbous and Large Four...”

Exactly four months ago, I underwent a closed rhinoplasty to reduce a bump on the bridge of my nose. When the cast originally came off the week after surgery, the bridge of my nose looked very thin and delicate, exactly how I wanted, however the tip was very swollen and bulbous. My surgeon explained that it takes at least 12 months after surgery for the tip to heal, however I have not seen any... more

“Rhinoplasty to Improve Breathing...”

Did it to improve breathing (turbinite reduction & septoplasty) and make nose smaller from profile view. Just had it done five days ago and my face is still swollen to the point that I look like a chipmunk, so it is hard to tell the final results..however from what I can see through the swelling I am pleased.I had rhinoplasty five days ago at UCLA & went to my surgeon today to get the... more

“Great Results! - Glendale, CA”

Rhinoplasty was the best decision I'v made my nose looks fantastic the Dr who did it is very skilled with nose reconstruction. I lived with a large bump on my nose for years always getting stares so I decided to do it.It looks like a really painful experience when you see your face after surgery. I had a swollen face with two black eyes. Believe it or not I only felt mild discomfort at... more

“Great Results!!! Very Happy”

It's only been just over a week since I had my nose job and i'm very happy already I know there is a lot of swelling still. As my nose looks so good only a week after I know it will look great when all the swelling has gone away. I had not much pain at all although I was taking pain killers every day for the first 4 days. I found ice packs really helped too for the for the first few days. I... more

“Indentation on Side of Nose After...”

I recently had nose surgery to decrease the width of my nose. I still have a long way to go to see the change in size, because presently, although more narrow, it appears around the same in overall size.The two biggest cons to having surgery is not being able to smile for a few weeks, and having to wait for the end result. I recently h more

“Goofy Smile After Rhinoplasty...”

I had a wonderful experience at this office in Beverly Hills. Great staff, great doctor, very imformative, accomidating and easy to work with. I would reccomend this surgeon to anyone.I had rhinoplasty almost 2 weeks ago and my nose looks great but my smile is awful. My surgeon had to cut the skin connecting my lip to my gum (b/c my lips would of been too raised) and now it is really tight in... more

“Rhinoplasty - Overall Not a Bad...”

I'm glad I had it done. The post surgery was not too bad. I had some discomfort but overall it wasn't a bad experience. I had heard so many stories about lots of pain, but as I said it was more discomfort.How long after my rhinoplasty should I continue to tape my nose nightly to reduce swelling. It's been five months...is there a benefit to continuing to tape? more

“Rhinoplasty Was Worth It (Higher Bridge)”

My rhinoplasty came out like what I had expected. I asked for a higher bridge and everything came out great. The pain was mild, but overall it wasn't that bad. more

“Closed Surgery for Big and Bony Nose”

I'm 17 and i just got a nose job this year. My nose was big and bony and i had a closed surgery and my bone was broken.Its been a month since i got my nose job. After a week my doctor taped my nose. He put three pieces of tape across my nose. He told me to change the tapes each week and apply new ones. I want to know for how many weeks total i have to have my tapes on and what what the reason is more

“Rhinoplasty - My Cast Was Taken off...”

I recently had rhinoplasty because I had a small hump I was insecure about. I also wanted thin out m tip. I went to a few surgeons and they all agreed my nose didn't match my face.I am now in the healing process and have not see the final result yet.I just had rhinoplasty done last friday. I took my cast off a few days earlier than I was supposed to for a a minute or so because it was hurt more

“Nose Job - Straightened Nose and...”

Surgery went well. Nose wasn't straight and had breathing issues.Had surgery 6 weeks ago and my nose is still very swollen. There's a small bump, will this drop? more

“Insecure About Results After Rhinoplasty”

Too soon to tell about pros and cons. I did it because I've always been insecure about my nose. Now I'm insecure about my nose job. more

“Really Wow... My Surgeon is Like...”

Hi there, I am a model and have wanted rhinoplasty ever since the age of 14. I had a bump on my bridge, a depressed radix, a deviated septum, weak cartilage and hanging columella. I know that probably makes my original nose sound awful but it actually wasn't that bad because it was not huge...I just looked like Pocahontas and if you saw me in the street you'd probably still think I was hot.... more

“Open Rhinoplasty Two Weeks Ago for...”

Rhinoplasty has given me a better self-image and confidence. I had a primary open rhinoplasty to remove a dorsal hump and minimize a bulbous tip.I just had open rhinoplasty 2 weeks ago. Last Friday I was moving a ladder over to the side that my husband had left out. As I was moving the ladder I did not realize that a flashlight was on top and sure enough the flashlight fell right on the tip... more

“Nose Reconstruction”

I broke by nose and it was visibly crooked following the accident. The deviated septum interfered with my breathing and I had sinus trouble as a result.My Dr. is a great surgeon. He was able to fix my nose and remove the bump with out having to break my nose again. He even graphed some cartlidge on the top to make the line straight from the side.I am very happy with my results. and the pain... more

“Nasal Augmentation with Silastic Implant”

I'm Chinese and was born with somewhat of a wide, flat nose with flared nostrils. I've always hated the base of my nose because it was too wide. I've wanted alarplasty for a long time, but when I consulted with a surgeon he recommended that I get nasal augmentation as well because my bridge was low. So I ended up getting nasal augmentation with an I shaped silastic implant, ear cartilage... more

“Had Rhinoplasty Done Twice by 2...”

I had my first rhinoplasty done 23 years ago. The doc did a very bad job. I was left with one side collapsed and scarred. I had it done again by a Hollywood doc 6 years later who fixed my nose properly. It isn't perfect, but I still don't look like the elephant man. I would recommend this surgery with a surgeon who specializes in rhinoplasty only. Research your doc before going under the knife!!! more

“Help with Rhinoplasty”

I'm really worried about the results of my rhinopasty and the doc has not even taken the splint off yet (had surgery 6 days ago). Is it normal to feel this way?  I'm worried that the space above my lip is too big.  Does that part usually get swollen too? It was worth it after all!!!  I was in shock at first because my face was still swollen, but now I love the fat gr more

“Had Rhinoplasty a Year Ago....”

I fell off a bunkbed when I was 7 years old and landed on my nose...and had a pretty noticeable bump. Later, I got hit in the nose in the same place and the bump just kept getting more pronounced. I don't think anyone would comment or say I had a "bad" nose before surgery, but it definitely did not help my profile. I started getting really fixated on this darn bump about two years ago... more

“Love my New Nose”

I used to have a huge nose. It was thick, large and widely spread across my face. As a result, it drew a lot of attention and naturally made me uncomfortable. I could see that whenever people approached me, their eyes would be stuck at my nose in amusement. My nostrils were super huge too. I just had to get a nose job. I have grown up being teased about my nose and now i made up my mind that... more